a Class commentray on Pakistan’s Upper Class and Elites

I found following comments by someone so good that i decided to compile them into a post. The words are actually the complete picture of our burger bachaz and upper class elites who cant stop commenting on Religious fundamentalists, Mullaz etc.
Original full post : http://fiverupees.blogspot.com/2009/10/curious-fundamentalist.html

Comment :
Anonymous said…
when you refer to ‘modern muslim scholars’ as nut jobs please refrain from using an all encompassing term. the muslim scholars here in the west are very educated and shine an islamic light on almost every pertinent modern issue within the classical (and superior) framework of islam. just some of these scholars includes: yasir qadhi , hamza yusuf , abdul hakim murad , tawfique chaudhry

the list is endless and if you bother to read some of their articles- you might actually escape from you extremist anti-islam position (ironically YOU are no different to christian evangelical nutjobs in this respect). just one of a million such enlightening articles is linked here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2009/oct/12/islam-economics-religion

you are, however, fairly representative of a well-educated pakistani brought up with a natural aversion to islam (whether you like it or not). it does not suit you, your family or your lifestyle so you try and discredit it whenever you get the chance. muslim scholarship in pakistan may be a problem, but people who inherited a post-colonial sense of entitlement like yourself are responsible for it. how many middle class pakistanis with a child who’s half good in school think ‘i’ll send him to learn islam or send him to the best islamic university abroad’? . . . none. and THEN they complain about the nutjob muslim scholars in their country that do exist. pakistan’s ‘islamic’ problem is a product of it’s own middle and upper classes hate of islam. how many people from aitchison, lahore grammer, karachi grammar, lyceum or any good school go on to learn classical islam? its not like the institutions aren’t there – the oldest degree awarding institution in the world is an ISLAMIC university (guiness book of records – look it up). why don’t you or NB aspire that one of your child(ren) attend not only a top western institution but also a top islamic one and reforge the absent islamic scholarship of pakistan??? islamic theology is just as revolutionary as it ever was – ‘muslims’ like yourself unfortunately are where the real problems lie. muslims in the west, alhamdulillah, haven’t been brought up with this colonial baggage – its not ‘cooler’ to be western and anti-islam where we were brought up and that’s why we don’t have an islamic scholarship issue. i’ve been to pakistan – i’ve seen wannabe rich kids who try SO hard to live a western lifestyle and pride themselves on being oh so liberal/cool. they go study abroad and come back to complain about a country that they were completely detached from growing up anyway. nothing could demonstrate this better to me than an educated, pakistani, so-called muslim individual like AKS obtaining his ‘islamic’ knowledge on a topic from the BBC! do you know how ridiculous you look? Continue reading

Black Stains in Pakistan’s History – 2

Full Article here

Clean your mess before you Exit

khi_mb2When i was young my elders keep paying “tribute” to the man known as ZIA . . . i always wondered what the heck with this man why everyone (around me) hates him. I was too young to understand things. As i grew i came to know the scale of poison this man had injected in our country. This pic below i took 30 min back reminds of the evil we are facing. From the outset nothing is happening in this pic but i’ll tell you. These 4 fouji jawanz on 2 bikes were constantly being a pain in my ass since neither they were leaving the fast lane nor allowing me to pass. What more, they were even not allowing anyone to come close. On two occasions the guy sitting back at right used hath ka ishara asking me to stop (sort of) to stay back on 2 turns. While seeing these vehicles was routine in KHI this never happened before, except for VIPz obviously. For a moment i felt myself being a terrorist. But from their perspective i guess they were doing the right thing because we already know how the terrorists were attacking the officers these days. Recently we had 2 brigadiers being attacked, one embracing shahadat (so called). And i think we should support them and bear inconvenience for a while.

But this is not the point i wanted to make here. My point was does the officer sitting in this vehicle understands how their decisions in one era create a huge impact for the future generations? Does he understand that this “TERRORIST” is their product from GHQ laboratories of 80s. That he (and his org) is equally responsible for all the mess. We cant allow them to simply incite religious emotions at one time for Jihad and then take a U-turn after 2 decades. The question , we , as citizens be asking these fellows is, now that they are feeling the heat, will they not repeat history and have they understood well the old quote : As you sow so shall you reap. We cant allow our ARMY to manufacture one WHOLE NEW GENERATION of JIHADIST and push the EXIT button on a call from Washington .

We strongly need to tell them that please clean your own mess first before you EXIT.

Kishwar Naheed and our Kaam Chor Nation

Kishwar Naheed made a statement about our nation here i didnt have to wait much to read this in paper today . .
I had included the “Afsar Shahi” at the very top (here) for some SPECIAL reasons . . one of their motto being . . . na kaam kerna hai na kerne dena hai unlike ARMY whose motto is apni marzi se kaam kerna hai


THOUSANDth of a Second . . . Must Read


Black Stains in Pakistan’s History – 1

Some adventures of General Niazi :


Nawaz Sharif and his intelligent team


‘You have atom bombs, but we have suicide bombers’

talibanA nervous looking Pakistani soldier pointed a rocket-propelled grenade at our pickup truck in late January. The Taliban guard beside me loaded his rifle and ordered me to put a scarf over my face. In the drivers seat was Badruddin Haqqani, a senior commander of the Haqqani network, one of the Taliban’s most hard-line factions and the group that was holding me and two Afghan colleagues hostage in Pakistan’s tribal areas.

Obeying the guard, I covered my face. The soldier was in the lead vehicle of a Pakistani army supply convoy in North Waziristan. After surveying the road, the soldier got back in his truck, and the convoy rumbled forward. I hoped that the Pakistanis might somehow rescue us. Instead, I watched in dismay as Badruddin got out of the truck and calmly stood on the side of the road. After the convoy disappeared, Badruddin seemed amused.

Do you know who that was? he asked me.

No, I said, trying to play dumb . . Continue reading

PPP and Musharraf – Understanding NRO

I prefer calling it PRO . . .

(Plunder and Run Ordinance )


Ye kia Drama hai ???

Yar MAIN HEADLINE chor do . . es GOV ko apni chaddi ka nai pata wo hamari kia hifazat karegi RED HIGHLIGHTED padho


kuch din pehle jab hamari discussion horahi thi (gulshan mei) toh tumhare aik dost ne (I think Yaseen) ye sawaal kia tha ki TALIBAN issue ka solution kia hai. . . Toh mei ne kaha tha es ka solution hai…………. DECISION

Tumhare dost ne pucha decision ?
Toh mei ne explain kia ki hamara DUSHMAN ……….hamare andar hee hai…… or hamari ARMY ….. or puri qoam hijda bani hui hai jisko ye samaj nai arahi

Ki TALIBAN haamara “asset” hain ki “liability” [http://columnpk.wordpress.com/2009/05/18/salim-safi-militancy-whats-the-problem]

Magar mei ne khas tor per ARMY LEADERSHIP ko point out kerke ye statement di thi ke hamari ARMY ne abhi tak ye DECIDE hee nai kia ki TALIBAN is our ENEMY. . Hamari militray leadership “by policy’ abhi bi yahi “MIND SET” rakhti hai ke

Ye hamare bigrey bachey hain . . .

Esi liye wo kabi unko “maal paani” se behlaney ki koshish kerte hain or kabhi “dunday” se [CARROT (herehere (note ARMY officer at his back) hereherehere] ) . . . STICK . . policy]

Ye  jo upper cutting post ki mei ne or es mai RED highlight jo tumne padha . . .

Ye kia  DRAMA hai…………… ?????

Kis cheez per RECONCILIATION kya ja raha hai
Agar koi chor ka group bank loot le or 1 caror chori kerle toh kia us se mufahimat karoge ki acha bhai adhay toh wapus kerdo hum aap ko kuch nahi kahainge

MUFAHIMAT >> RECONCILIATION es base per ki jati hai ki jab 2 groups aik OBJECTIVE per mutafiq hun magar MEANs-to-Objective per agree na kerte hun . . . Taki COMMON GROUND bana ker DESTINATION ki taraf ahisata ahista move kia jaai. . .

Jab DESTINATION hee alag hain (taliban = radical taliban state for Khilafat , Pakistan = democratic state) toh ye kis ko chey bana rahi hai hamari MILITARY leadership?

Peeri Mureedi Democracy – Part II

Read below post with the post Peeri Mureedi Democracy

peer-sahebzain_qureshi_visiting-cardAlso read : How Qureshi’s Son Was Appointed In Kerry’s Office

Zardari ya Khuddari

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New Drama – Old Game

kal aik dos st mei ne kaha tha ki NAZIR NAJI ki “analysis” one of the best hai, ye read karo, pata chal jaaiga KIA GAME chal raha hai pardey ke peechey

Keep in MIND, mei ye nahi keh raha NAZIR NAJI “sahi” bunda hai . . .Aik 2 numberi bunda bi  GOOD analysis ker sakta hai . . .ANALYSIS aik SKILL hai . . . es ka MORALITY se koi DIRECT link nai

PLUS >> Mei ne 3 din pehle aik SMS kia tha FRIENDS ko or kaha tha ki ARMY ne “DIRECT” media mei ye statement de ker ke ki unko KERRY LUGAR BILL per RESERVATIONS hain khuli badmaashi ki hai……………….. NAZIR NAJI bhi yahi keh raha hai magar wo “badmashi” ka word use nahi ker sakta (verna 🙂 Essi liye wo word use ker raha hai (2nd para , 10th last line) ki es baar khula ke khaila ja raha hai’


Rehman Malik – 180 Degree turn

Nizar : ye wohi REHMAN MALIK hai jis ne KERRY LUGAR bill ko bohtbara achievement kaha tha jab wo US SENATE se pass hua tha

Or es ne CABINET MEETING mei “khas tor per” aik karardad (resolution) pass kerne ki request ki thi GILLANI se TO PAY THANKS AND TRIBUTE TO US gov on KERRY LUGAR aid and help (see CAPITAL TALK recent ones)

BUT . . . Ab es ne apna DIRECTION change kerlia ……………. WHY ??

Kiunki kisi brigadier ne call kerke dunda dia hoga……………..Mei tumse essi liye kehta hun ki POLITICIANs toh sirf puppets hain………….. GAME kisi or ke haath mai hai ……….or jis ke haath mei hai usko cirtizie karo. .Tum log sarey  sirf politicians ke peeche kiun par jatay ho


Pakistan – The Feudal Structure and its components

The map shows the participation of different components this feudal setup (strongest at top – weakest at bottom). This is apart from exceptions, please bear in mind since every group has few good men. The color shows links which show control and sub-control. And obviously everyone controls THE COMMON MAN who is himself a component of this feudal setup. The countries at the top makeup the most invisible parts whose all decisions have direct/indirect consequences to the components underneath and this circle goes till end at bottom.

Is PAKISTAN a Feudal cantonment of Generals ?

Absolutely horrible , and goes to prove what i had saying for such a long time.

Pakistani Generals – Time for an Intellectual Rebellion

Pakistan Khapey – Part 1

Man i love the stupidity, intelligence, idiocity, uniqueness,difference,color,style,behaviour,attitude,response,action,reaction in daily life. We are unique ALHUMDULILLAH 🙂

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